"How could you tell?" I ask, acknowledging that, for the past few weeks while we've dealt with my health issues, Katie and I have not exactly been the tidiest of people.
"You know," he says, wiping his brow, "I stopped watching that show 'Hoarders' because I didn't think it was realistic.
"But going into peoples' houses like I do, I realized I was right - it's not realistic because they don't make things look bad enough."
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